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>> my reference to the -- >> answer the question, senator hagel. the question is: were you right or wrong? >> chris: i have a question for you, how will you vote on the hagel nomination? >> we still have more information, but, again, that was not be a academic discussion i was having with him. we were losing the war in 2006. and, when the president came around, bush, who i had been very critical of, sent david petraeus and the surge, we succeeded in iraq and now, because of the obama administration's action afterwards we are losing, very badly unraveling, but the fact is the we hadn't done that more american lives would have been lost unnecessarily. so, for then senator hagel to say, well, he'll let history be the judge, he was there and involved. and i'm sure he is wrong and knows he's wrong on the base of the fact of what happened. >> chris: so i have to press it again. you saw the hearing and know his record. are you going to support him for defense secretary? >> i will see the rest of the answers to his question, but, certainly, i have very gra
>> my reference to the -- >> answer the question, senator hagel. the question is: were you right or wrong? >> chris: i have a question for you, how will you vote on the hagel nomination? >> we still have more information, but, again, that was not be a academic discussion i was having with him. we were losing the war in 2006. and, when the president came around, bush, who i had been very critical of, sent david petraeus and the surge, we succeeded in iraq and now, because...
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was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question. none of that is anything that the next secretary of defense is going to deal with. hold on. let's split this into two buckets. there was the totalally out of context questions that won't bear on what the next secretary of defense will do. he seemed unprepared on the questions that quite frankly he knew were coming. >> he had mock hearings. should he go to the president and say, do you still have confidence in me? >> i'm reminded through weeks into his first term of the obama administration. time geithner gives a speech at the treasury department about our banking industry and how to save it. three weeks into the administration. three weeks into his tenure. the market dropped 382 points. two weeks ago, tim geithner walked out of the trea
was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question. none of that is anything that the next secretary of defense is going to deal with. hold on. let's split this into two buckets. there was the totalally out of context questions that won't bear...
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and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck hagel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening six years, you would think we had 150,000 troops parked right now in iraq. this next defense secretary is not going to deal with iraq and the surge. this was a vanity thing for john mccain to try to prove to a former friend who disagreed with him that he was right on the surge and that chuck hagel was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question.
and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck hagel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening...
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chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of contaient. it was not a bad during issue. he said, yes i support the administration's policy on containment. he then received a note and says i he been told i made a mistake. of course, i am not in support of that.t. the policy of this administration on containining is that it does not have a policy. at which point, democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby. clueless? >> he was in a position where he had to dodge a little bit. let'go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge.e. the issue was never the surge when you talk about i
chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of contaient. it was not a bad during issue. he said, yes i...
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i served with chuck hagel. he is a conservative republican representing the ultra liberal state of nebraska. he served with distinction in the united states senate as a senator, served on the foreign relations committee, armed services committee, intelligence committee. he's a man of quality, a man of courage. not just being able to come and give a speech here on the senate floor. during the vietnam war, he volunteered to go into combat. that's what he chose to do. because he thought it was the patriotic thing to do for his country, our country. and his family felt that way. he and his brother went togeth together. they didn't go to push pencils. they carried rifles, had strapped to their sides grenad grenades. he was wounded twice. he's an enlisted man. he didn't walk around ordering people to do things. people were ordering him around what to do. except when it came to his brother, who he saved his brother's life in combat in vietnam. and they are filibustering him. that's what they're doing. i'm going to go
i served with chuck hagel. he is a conservative republican representing the ultra liberal state of nebraska. he served with distinction in the united states senate as a senator, served on the foreign relations committee, armed services committee, intelligence committee. he's a man of quality, a man of courage. not just being able to come and give a speech here on the senate floor. during the vietnam war, he volunteered to go into combat. that's what he chose to do. because he thought it was the...
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this vote is the vote on chuck hagel. it's not on procedure or anything. on chuck hagel. i retain the balance of my time. >> senator from michigan. >> what time does the majority have? >> 17 minutes remain for the majority. and three minutes for the minority. >>. >> five minutes senate from illinois. >> senator from illinois. >> madam president, this is rare. twice in the history of the senate have we had a filibuster involving a nominee for a cabinet position. twice. especially disappointing about this as it was just a few weeks ago we came together on a bipartisan basis and said we're not going this anymore. we're going try to work together. we're going try to avoid the filibuster and here we have sadly an historic filibuster over an appointment of a former united states senator, chuck hagel, republican of nebraska, as secretary of defense. i know, there's controversy social associated with the nomination. i know, chuck hagel. i served with him. we served together in the united states senate. no question in my mind the president made a good choice. i'll also tell you ne
this vote is the vote on chuck hagel. it's not on procedure or anything. on chuck hagel. i retain the balance of my time. >> senator from michigan. >> what time does the majority have? >> 17 minutes remain for the majority. and three minutes for the minority. >>. >> five minutes senate from illinois. >> senator from illinois. >> madam president, this is rare. twice in the history of the senate have we had a filibuster involving a nominee for a cabinet...
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, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. but i'll -- >> the committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments and -- >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective. but if we review the record a little bit -- >> will you please answer the question? were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge being -- >> are you answering the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. i would like the answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elabor
, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. but i'll -- >> the committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments and -- >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the...
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you agree with this general perception that senator hagel -- chuck hagel made. that would be great. >> that is a good question. it is a fair question. i cannot speak for senator hagel. my interpretation is that it is along the lines of something that secretary gates used to say. we had accumulated over the decade post 9/11 when our budget was going up every year. when your budget goes year and year out, it is fair to say we have a management problem, all of our managers, it was easy to reach for more money to solve your managing problem, whether it is a technical problem in a program or something like that. it was noticeable to me that the logistics in some places that have accumulated over the decades. that is my secretary gates started his efficiency initiative, which i was part of. our efforts to reform the system improved our performance. in parallel, we have absorbed billions of dollars in budget cuts anyway -- in a way that we could still accomplish the mission of the nation, and that speaks to the fact that we could do with a country needed with less. we
you agree with this general perception that senator hagel -- chuck hagel made. that would be great. >> that is a good question. it is a fair question. i cannot speak for senator hagel. my interpretation is that it is along the lines of something that secretary gates used to say. we had accumulated over the decade post 9/11 when our budget was going up every year. when your budget goes year and year out, it is fair to say we have a management problem, all of our managers, it was easy to...
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how are you going to vote on the hagel nomination? >> we still have some more information but again that wasn't an academic discussion i was having with senator hagel. we were losing the war in 2006 and when the president came around president bush who i had been very critical of came around and sent david petraeus and the surge we succeeded in iraq. now, because of the obama administration actions afterwards we are losing and badly unraveling. the fact is if we hadn't done that more american lives would have been lost unnecessarily. so for then senator hagel to say well, he will let history be the judge. he was there and involved and i'm sure he is wrong and he knows he is wrong on the basis of the facts of what happened. >> chris: so i got to press it again. because you saw the hearing. you know his record. are you going to support him for defense secretary? >> i will see the rest of the answers to his questions but i have very grave concerns. >> chris: grave concerns. fair to say you are leaning against voting for him? >> i think t
how are you going to vote on the hagel nomination? >> we still have some more information but again that wasn't an academic discussion i was having with senator hagel. we were losing the war in 2006 and when the president came around president bush who i had been very critical of came around and sent david petraeus and the surge we succeeded in iraq. now, because of the obama administration actions afterwards we are losing and badly unraveling. the fact is if we hadn't done that more...
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so is chuck hagel. i find myself disagreeing with senator kerrey on occasion, but i think he is in the mainstream of thinking and will do a good job for the country. i don't vote against nominees very often. senator obama to me if we use this standard, i think we would all be in pretty good shape over here and vote a lot. the we're not. at the end of the day, it is just not the vote about the iranian revolutionary guard but a series of votes and statements that paid a unusually disturbing picture. there is the left lane in politics, the right man to man the middle-income and when it comes to some of the iranian israeli issues there is the chuck hagel lane. he is in the league of his own. there is nobody with this kind of a series of votes in the series of statements. it's is not one thing. i see dumb things every day. it is a series of things, a series of votes, and edge about him that makes many of us very unnerved about his selection to a time when the world is on fire. ferias a contagion will take th
so is chuck hagel. i find myself disagreeing with senator kerrey on occasion, but i think he is in the mainstream of thinking and will do a good job for the country. i don't vote against nominees very often. senator obama to me if we use this standard, i think we would all be in pretty good shape over here and vote a lot. the we're not. at the end of the day, it is just not the vote about the iranian revolutionary guard but a series of votes and statements that paid a unusually disturbing...
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bush, is really upset because chuck hagel compared w. with herbert hoover? you are republicans trying to subvert the foreign policy of the united states over an old and bitter grudge? let's bring in ari melber and democrat strategist julian ep sto epstein. what is senator mccain's problem? is he trying to defend a mode okur president bush or is he trying to defend a failed war in iraq? >> i think it's more iraq where we know senator mccain has long stood by our presence there and adding troops there, but bottom line if you take this as the mccain filibuster standard, then no one in any democratic administration ever gets a vote because, guess what? a lot of them have good faith and i think well-grounded disagreements with george w. bush. so this cannot be the standard. it's not defensible on its own terms and that's the problem. they are erecting a supermajority hurdle for all of this legislation and all of these nominees. this is an old problem from the way the republicans have been acting and it doesn't stand up because by this standard again you would not
bush, is really upset because chuck hagel compared w. with herbert hoover? you are republicans trying to subvert the foreign policy of the united states over an old and bitter grudge? let's bring in ari melber and democrat strategist julian ep sto epstein. what is senator mccain's problem? is he trying to defend a mode okur president bush or is he trying to defend a failed war in iraq? >> i think it's more iraq where we know senator mccain has long stood by our presence there and adding...
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why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not, but the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam, and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here is mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle here, and he wouldn't let go on the question of the iraq surge. again, what david said. let's listen again, back again to the old war. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? >> my -- >> yes or no. >> my referenc
why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still...
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were you wounded, senator hagel? >> finally, there was the nominee himself, who appeared to have prepared for the hearing by skimming a few briefing talking points on his cab right to the capital and who rather than defending some of hits comments on foreign policy, the importance of exhausting every chance of peace rather than leaping into the horrors of war, the dysfunctional congressional politics of israel/palestine, he seemed resign to glumly recant. >> name one person, in your opinion, who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> well, why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> do you agree it's a provocative statement? that i can't think of a more provocative thing to say about the relationship between the united states and israel and the senate or the congress than what you said. name one dumb thing we've had goetded into doing from the pressure of the valley or jewish lobby. >> i have already stated that i re
were you wounded, senator hagel? >> finally, there was the nominee himself, who appeared to have prepared for the hearing by skimming a few briefing talking points on his cab right to the capital and who rather than defending some of hits comments on foreign policy, the importance of exhausting every chance of peace rather than leaping into the horrors of war, the dysfunctional congressional politics of israel/palestine, he seemed resign to glumly recant. >> name one person, in your...
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chuck hagel. congress is on break but that won't tamp down the noise. even though the same republicans bashing him admit he's still likely to get the job. border patrol, parts of the president's hidden plan on immigration leak out into one nation's newspaper, prompting republicans to fight before the real debate even gets started. and ten years later, what some key players are saying about the decision to topple saddam hussein in 2003. >> good morning, happy president's day in minneapolis. it's monday, february 18, 2013, and this is "the daily rundown." here's chuck todd. >> thanks, brad, and happy president's day to all of you. but remember, the federal government says this holiday is called washington's birthday, so get it right. let's get to my first reads of the morning. defense secretary nominee chuck hagel may have stepped forward forward -- sequestering of the filibuster that put the hagel vote off another week. >> john brennan, cia director, and chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we want
chuck hagel. congress is on break but that won't tamp down the noise. even though the same republicans bashing him admit he's still likely to get the job. border patrol, parts of the president's hidden plan on immigration leak out into one nation's newspaper, prompting republicans to fight before the real debate even gets started. and ten years later, what some key players are saying about the decision to topple saddam hussein in 2003. >> good morning, happy president's day in...
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no vote for hagel until panetta answers questions about benghazi. [laughter] what happens when ten jews sit in a room and try to come up with puns really. starts that way every morning, actually. so two weeks ago lindsey rhett graham had his raisin -- whatever it's a play. >> did the president show any curiosity about how is this going? what kind of assets do you have helping these people? did he ever make that phonecall? >> look, there's no question in my mind the president of the united states was concerned about american lives. >> with all due respect i don't believe it's a credible statement. >> jon: oh, with all due respect, the president does not care for he is a cad and a scoundrel. [ laughter ] it's a plan as the alabaster tone in my creamy skin and as simple as my maid kicked in the head by a donkey. this president lies like all the other men who woo you with their lives and leave behind nothing but broken dreams and a torn cotton negligee you ordered special from a yankee catalog. [cheers and applause] [laughter] anyway, the point is he go
no vote for hagel until panetta answers questions about benghazi. [laughter] what happens when ten jews sit in a room and try to come up with puns really. starts that way every morning, actually. so two weeks ago lindsey rhett graham had his raisin -- whatever it's a play. >> did the president show any curiosity about how is this going? what kind of assets do you have helping these people? did he ever make that phonecall? >> look, there's no question in my mind the president of the...
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good friends, we thank chuck hagel and mrs. hagel and his family. because if confirmed, is an enormous commitment by the family to this position. you have made the decision to offer yourself once again to public service. public service is a privilege. i have always regarded it as such. this statement will soon be shared by you. i read it through not once or twice, but again this morning. i have never read more carefully prepared statement, a more forthright statement, and one that has no hedges or deviations. he hits firm on those issues that will make the decision in your mind and that of your colleagues as to whether or not he is qualified to take on this very important assignment. i first entered the pentagon in 1969 during the war in vietnam under melvin laird. jim schlesinger followed and i worked with every secretary of defense since that period of time. all different, all with their strengths and indeed some of their weaknesses, but set forth in this is a series of commitments to you as a committee, to the members of the full senate and to th
good friends, we thank chuck hagel and mrs. hagel and his family. because if confirmed, is an enormous commitment by the family to this position. you have made the decision to offer yourself once again to public service. public service is a privilege. i have always regarded it as such. this statement will soon be shared by you. i read it through not once or twice, but again this morning. i have never read more carefully prepared statement, a more forthright statement, and one that has no hedges...
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heat over hagel. commander in chief barack obama has nominated charles chuck hagel for secretary of defense. hagel testified before the senate armed services committed tee this week. is senator john mccain grilling hagel about hagel's opposition to the surge in iraq in 2007. >> were you correct in your judgment. >> i would defer that to history. >> when you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i played those comments. >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that is a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> senator hagel explained he opposed the surge in iraq because it cost nearly 1200 american lives. >> i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always ask the question, is this going to be worth the sacrifice? because there will be sacrifice. >> that was hagel's emphasis on the cost factor. my question is this. his emphasis on the cost factor in military decisions, does it serve as a dodge to senator mccain's bullet? or
heat over hagel. commander in chief barack obama has nominated charles chuck hagel for secretary of defense. hagel testified before the senate armed services committed tee this week. is senator john mccain grilling hagel about hagel's opposition to the surge in iraq in 2007. >> were you correct in your judgment. >> i would defer that to history. >> when you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i played those comments. >> i want to know if you...
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y it goes to the question of, does hagel see the u.s. military, a strong u.s. military as a force for good, for leadership in this world? and you get the sense from this and his comments, ala bob woodward and the "washington post" and the exchange he had with president obama, he doesn't, he sees it as a new world order and we are, leading from behind and he didn't exactly say it and it comes when leon panetta points out the threat of the man-pads, the anti-aircraft attack missiles that are coming out of iran, that we need to intercept and, it there are dangers in places like that, al qaeda expanding in north africa and it is a dangerous world and you can't put you a pause button on it. >> chris: let me be blatantly political with you. what is the smart play for senate republicans? should they filibuster hagel -- and we should point out we can't find any history of a top presidential cabinet appointment ever being filibustered by either party. should they try to filibuster him or say, you want him, you got him? >> i expect, having talked to many folks up on capi
y it goes to the question of, does hagel see the u.s. military, a strong u.s. military as a force for good, for leadership in this world? and you get the sense from this and his comments, ala bob woodward and the "washington post" and the exchange he had with president obama, he doesn't, he sees it as a new world order and we are, leading from behind and he didn't exactly say it and it comes when leon panetta points out the threat of the man-pads, the anti-aircraft attack missiles...
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except for susan collins who said she was supporting hagel, and now she's not supporting hagel. is the purpose to embarrass hagel or the white house. >> the purpose is to embarrass the white house. they showedded that they could derail nominees that the president wanted for his cab nat post. they wanted to send the u.n. ambassador for secretary of state. she ultimately withdrew her name because of the connection with the fallout from the bengahzi attacks. as long as the republicans feel they can force the extra time to concede is to demands for information and other things they're probably going to do that. they have no intent to cooperate with the president, and they have every intent to block him especially those republican senators who are worried about primary challenges in 2014 and their conservative states. >> michael: so as usual it goes to politics. i'm baffled by the fact that john kerry, as we mentioned earlier faced no questioning at all about this, and it was his position, secretary of state, it was the state department. that's why susan rice was not nominated people
except for susan collins who said she was supporting hagel, and now she's not supporting hagel. is the purpose to embarrass hagel or the white house. >> the purpose is to embarrass the white house. they showedded that they could derail nominees that the president wanted for his cab nat post. they wanted to send the u.n. ambassador for secretary of state. she ultimately withdrew her name because of the connection with the fallout from the bengahzi attacks. as long as the republicans feel...